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Znate li onaj osje\u0107aj koji osje\u0107ate poslije susreta s nekim tko vas je do\u017eivio u svoj va\u0161oj punini? Za\u0161to je ovakva vrsta odnosa klju\u010dna za na\u0161e mentalno zdravlje znao je Martin Buber.<\/p>\n

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U mnogim psihoterapijskim \u0161kolama i tehnikama poznata je ideja “Ja-ti” odnosa\u00a0 – to je pojam kojeg je u filozofiju, a potom posljedi\u010dno i u psihoterapiju, uveo Martin Buber. To je odnos koji je ljekovit i nakon kojeg se na \u017eivljenoj razini osje\u0107amo kao da di\u0161emo punim plu\u0107ima. U tom kontekstu on je iznimno bitan za mentalno zdravlje i osnova je terapijskog odnosa.<\/p>\n

Odnos “Ja-ti” predstavlja vrstu kontakta u kojem do\u017eivljavamo osobu pred nama u njenoj cjelovitosti. U puno slu\u010dajeva, upravo je takva vrsta kontakta ono \u0161to mo\u017ee biti iznimno hranjivo i ljekovito.<\/p>\n

\u0160to to to\u010dno zna\u010di? Jedan je aspekt takvog kontakta to da osobu promatramo kao cilj samu po sebi, a ne kao sredstvo kroz koje poku\u0161avamo ne\u0161to posti\u0107i. Drugi je aspekt taj da osobu ne do\u017eivljavamo kroz samo neki dio nje – npr. kroz dru\u0161tvenu ulogu ili izgled, talent ili prizmu ne\u010dega \u0161to se smatra manom, ve\u0107 je do\u017eivljavamo kao cjelovito bi\u0107e.<\/p>\n

“Ba\u0161 kao \u0161to melodija nije sastavljena od nota niti stih od rije\u010di niti kip od redaka, ve\u0107 ih je potrebno vu\u0107i i vu\u0107i sve dok se njihovo jedinstvo ne raspr\u0161i u ove mnoge dijelove, tako je i s \u010dovjekom kojem ka\u017eem Ti”,<\/em> smatra Buber. “Mogu uzeti boju njegove kose ili njegovog govora ili njegove dobrote.\u00a0 Ali svaki put kad to u\u010dinim, on prestaje biti Ti”.<\/em><\/p>\n

Drugim rije\u010dima, cjelina osobe vi\u0161e je od svakog njenog dijela zasebno i tek do\u017eivljavanjem te cjeline mo\u017eemo u potpunosti do\u017eivjeti osobu.<\/p>\n

Buber smatra da do pravog \u017eivljenja dolazi upravo unutar takvog susreta. Svako ljudsko bi\u0107e, smatra Buber, ima potrebu da ga u njegovom postojanju njega kao zasebne jedinstvene osobe potvrde drugi. No to nije tako jednostavno, s obzirom na to da nas drugi \u010desto mogu do\u017eivljavati kroz vlastite projekcije ili kroz vlastite unaprijed zadane koncepte i ideje o tome kako bi odnos trebao izgledati. Ako je rije\u010d o takvom do\u017eivljavanju, ne nalazimo se vi\u0161e u “Ja-ti” odnosu.<\/p>\n

“Kroz Ti osoba postaje Ja”<\/p>\n

Martin Buber<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Ono \u0161to je tako\u0111er hranjivo u “Ja-ti” odnosu tj. odnosu u kojem nas drugi doista do\u017eivljavaju jest upravo to da u njemu nema unaprijed zadanih ideja ili predznanja, pretpostavki ili ma\u0161e koji interveniraju u njega. Drugim rije\u010dima, takav odnos predstavlja mogu\u0107nost da nas netko do\u017eivi i da mi do\u017eivimo nekog drugog u njihovoj punini, bez vlastitih projekcija ili ideja o tome kako bi susret trebao izgledati. Upravo u tome le\u017ei posebnost “Ja-ti” kontakta – to da ga karakterizira sposobnost stavljanja u iskustvo druge osobe bez gubljenja vlastite pozicije.<\/p>\n

Naravno, naglasak je na autenti\u010dnom odnosu izme\u0111u te dvije osobe i odnosu u kojem je druga osoba cilj po sebi, a ne sredstvo za dolazak do nekog cilja. Naime, nasuprot “Ja-ti” odnosu postoji odnos “Ja-ono”. Ako u odnos idemo iz te pozicije “Ja-ti”, \u0161to zna\u010di da osobu koristimo kao sredstvo za dolazak do nekog cilja, to ujedno zna\u010di da u susretu drugu osobu ne do\u017eivljavamo cjelovitom, ve\u0107 stupamo u odnos samo s nekim njenim dijelom\u00a0 -gore navedenim izgledom, karakteristikom, dru\u0161tvenom ulogom ili nedostatkom. U takvoj vrsti odno\u0161enja nema odnosa izme\u0111u punine bi\u0107a jedne osobe i druge, ve\u0107 samo nekih njihovih karakteristika. Tako\u0111er, \u010dim u odnos krenemo s nekom vrstom evaluacije tako\u0111er ne mo\u017eemo do\u017eivjeti osobu u njenoj punini. U takvom se susretu tako\u0111er ne\u0107e stvoriti jedinstvenost susreta dvije cjeline.<\/p>\n

Stvarni se dijalog mo\u017ee dogoditi samo ako su obje osobe voljne do\u017eivjeti osobu u njenoj “drugosti” -takvu kakva ona jest, koliko god to bilo razli\u010dito od nas samih i bez poku\u0161aja da ju reduciraju na neku etiketu.<\/p>\n

Upravo radi svega navedenog ovakva je vrsta kontakta klju\u010dan sastojak ve\u0107ine humanisti\u010dkih vrsta terapija.\u00a0 Istra\u017eivanja su pokazala (Blow, Sprenkle i Davis, 2007; Fl\u00fcckiger, Del Re i Wampold, 2012) da samu tehniku koja se upotrebljava u terapiji nadja\u010dava odnos koji uspostavljaju terapeut i klijent te da je upravo kvaliteta terapijskog odnosa ono \u0161to je bitno bez obzira na modalitet, pristup terapije ili probleme s kojima klijent dolazi.<\/p>\n

To je ujedno i ona komponenta ljekovitosti koja mo\u017ee biti zna\u010dajna i kod intimnih odnosa. Radi prirode odnosa koji se mo\u017ee temeljiti na totalitetu, u bliskim intimnim odnosima poput prijateljstva i partnerstva postoji prostor da osobu do\u017eivimo u njenoj punini, a ne prema ulogama, funkcijama ili vlastitim o\u010dekivanja.\u00a0 Za razliku od toga, u dru\u0161tvenoj interakciji, osobu je uobi\u010dajenije do\u017eivljavati u njenim funkcijama nego u njenom totalitetu, ve\u0107inom i zato \u0161to dru\u0161tveni \u017eivot \u010desto ne omogu\u0107ava prostor i kapacitiranost za drugu vrstu odno\u0161enja.<\/p>\n

Naravno, to koliko \u0107emo mo\u0107i do\u017eivjeti drugu osobu kao zasebnu cjelinu ovisi i o na\u0161em kapacitetu za isto.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a> Ljekovito je da nas netko do\u017eivljava kao cjelovitu osobu, sa svim vrlinama i manama, u punini na\u0161ih uspjeha i neuspjeha, o\u017eiljaka i radosti – i kao takvog kakvi jesmo, a ne kao ideju toga \u0161to bi drugi htio da jesmo. To nam daje osje\u0107aj potvr\u0111enosti u postojanju i slobode da budemo to \u0161to jesmo.<\/p>\n

Ako imamo problema u stupanju u susrete u njihovoj cjelovitosti, korisno je zapitati se ve\u0107 danas – kako se ti problemi manifestiraju i gdje zapinje? Mo\u017eemo li locirati u kojoj to\u010dci nastane problem? \u0160to nas spre\u010dava da osjetimo do\u017eivljavanje druge osobe u punini – ili da nas netko tako do\u017eivi – i da osjetimo hranjivost koja iz toga proizlazi?<\/p>\n

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